Tuesday, April 1, 2025

Minutes from 4/1/25 Meeting

HiCap Parents Council

April Meeting

04/01/2025 - 10 AM - 12 PM

In Person Attendance: Liz P, Amity, Angie, Elizabeth, Carson, Ashley, Holly, Allen

In Person Late: None

Zoom Meeting Attendance: Jen C, Mairead, Terra, Hong Zu, Nikita

Zoom Late: Sean Q

Secretary: Liz P.

Zoom Liaison: Allen

Next meeting date: Tuesday, May 6, 2025 - 10 AM


Discussion: 

  • Inglemoor 

    • Math Pathway Explanation - Amity has a chart spelling out potential HiCap math paths at IHS. They do not line up directly with similar AP classes due to IHS following IB guidelines, but there are path available with plenty of rigor, and a couple of off-ramp options for students that want them. 

    • Off-Ramp: Yes, there are options including AP Stats. 

  • North Creek

    • People have been posting a petition about an upper level math course; Calculus 4 is possibly going to be pulled

    • 4 years of math are important; Amity feels there is a commitment from the district to supply a course

    • An alternative for these kids would be Running Start; however, not all kids are ready for Running Start even if they are ready for high level math

    • NSD is worried about being able to afford classes that are under 25 kids (some classes are 35-40 kids, especially with the upper level math course)

  • Counselor/Guidance 

    • Within the math discussion, we are noticing and bringing up the issue with gifted students that are receiving conflicting guidance. 

    • Additionally, teachers and counselors often put off HiCap students

  • Procedural changes for students who want to opt out of HiCap services

    • Kids who have typically tried the coursework and then want to stop receiving services. This is mainly elementary-aged kids. 

    • There is an existing exit policy that is required by state law

    • If a kid has opted out for two years, NSD will have them test in again

    • Every parent who choose to opt their kid out, they will be required to sign a form that outlines this information

    • Add a voluntary field about WHY so office can be informed about reasons and can connect with the family 

  • High School Senior Survey

    • It is going out very soon, likely right after Spring Break

    • We may want to continue with the parents survey 


Council Questions/Updates

  • Skyview - night for discussion of Social Studies and Science. How did it go?

    • They did not communicate that 6th grade was mixed classes; they did not disclose that they are field testing curriculum

    • Universal Design for Learning (UDL) - it can be different levels and modalities

    • Kids like to work in groups and they enjoy working in groups although can cause frustrations at times. 

    • Amity has been interviewing kids about their experience in these integrated science and social studies and the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive from the kids. Many though want to be able to pick their own groups. Unclear: is this because hicap kids want to work with hicap kids? Or kids want to work with their friends? Or could be a lot of overlap since often their friends are the ones they were in EAP classes with in elementary school. These dynamics should shake up at least a little as the integrated model phases upward. 

  • Math middle school

    • How do we handle the 6th grade math students being clustered with 8th graders; leave them more open/vulnerable to bullying

    • Are there schools that are managing this better

      • There seems to be one school that was attempting to put 6/7 and 7/8 classes together

    • A real limiting factor is the master schedule and these are very independent for each school

  • Leota 5th grade math misinformation

    • Sent out inaccurate information to the parents

    • They communicated that 8th grade math would be eliminated; that’s not the case. It’s just that most 8th grade students will be prepared for Algebra.

    • This misinformation has not been corrected yet

  • Election timing 

    • In the election information, we need to put date and time of mandatory transitional meeting (Liz is doing a doodle for this)

    • Open voting on Monday, May 12. Voting closes on Wednesday, May 21 at 8 pm.

      • Email reminder for voting on Tuesday May 20th,

    • Election Results need to be in by Thursday, May 22

  • Fundraising Event

    • May 8 at Woodinville HS

    • Grit and Growth topic  - particularly helpful for parents 

    • Eventbrite will automatically suggest donation

    • By April 11, we want this info to be on all our discussion boards

  • Superintendent Selection

    • Do we want to do a statement to the board or something else?

    • Can we reach out to the school board and ask if we can be part of the interviewing process? We are aware that in the last superintendent search, different community groups were able to be part of the interview process. We want the HiCap Parents Council to be part of this.

    • Statement at April 28th meeting.


Action Items

  • ALL: We need someone to help Holly with election. (Allen will respond within the week.)

  • ALL except those listed below: We need to know if you are continuing. Here’s what we know so far: 

    • Staying in - Mairead, Ashley, Carson, Sean Q

    • In first year - Allen, Jenn C, Mairead

    • Leaving/Not running - Liz P, Holly 

    • Unsure - Terra

  • Liz: Will create a poll for Transition meeting for week of May 27.

  • ALL: Reps need to block their own calendars for May 8th event; you need to promote to community week of April 14 

  • Liz to connect with Mairead to discuss sliding scale/donation language, and supplies/collateral needed for event night

  • Carson will reach out to the school board 

Next month Agenda/Meeting

  • Amity to provide update on North Creek math course selection

  • Superintendent Search Discussion/Updates

  • Coffee meeting

  • What needs to happen at transition meeting and June meeting so new reps are ready and feel good

  • November meeting work groups discussion


Wednesday, March 5, 2025

Minutes from 3/5/25 Meeting

 HiCap Parents Council

March Meeting

 Virtual Meeting

03/05/2025 - 10 AM - 12 PM

In Person Attendance: Liz P, Amity, Angie, Ashley, Jen C, Mairead, Holly, Terri, Terra

In Person Late: None

Zoom Meeting Attendance: Carson, Sean, Faustine, Veronica, Hong, Aishwarya

Zoom Late: Elisa, Imen, Josh H(?)

Secretary: Liz P.

Zoom Liaison: Mairead

Next meeting date: Tuesday, April 1, 2025

Discussion: 

  • ELA discussion

    • Still a lot of concern across multiple schools about the effectiveness of differentiation within an integrated classroom. Many classrooms are not differentiating at all, so HiCap-qualified students are not receiving an accelerated or challenging ELA program.

    • Moorlands is doing a walk-to reading during their ELA block, and it is currently effective due to: 

      • Partnering: Moorlands staff are partnering (two teachers partnering together)

      • Unified approach: Staff using a “structured literacy process” — a standardized method of teaching reading levels, phonics, etc. — in order to be more cohesive; partnered staff wanted to be in agreement as students move back and forth between their classrooms

      • Related: No East Ridge rep on the Council this year to report how their walk-to ELA model is going

    • “One of my big pushes this year was to have elementary students have 60 minutes of math per day.” - Amity. This means less time for other subjects.

    • Fear: That if HiCap students are not getting enough support (worksheets as the only thing they get, for example), they will not be ready for the higher levels.

    • Discussion about reluctant writers; many hicap students are happier to read a high level text, but they are missing the depth of discussion and also the output piece from writing.

  • Budget

    • Districts can’t have more than 16% of their population qualifying for a special education

      • Bill 5192 is trying to increase the special education multiplier; getting this pushed would help us meet the budget gap. Holly says this one is probably most important to push.

    • What can the HiCap Council do?

      • Amplify message of PTAs. Ask constituents to weigh in with their reps. Take a position.

  • General updates

    • Families should now know if their students are HiCap qualified.

    • For schools that don’t have a walk to math, can single qualified math kids now bus to other schools?

      • Amity is willing to make an offer to those families (since the dual qualified kids are already being bused).

    • There are fewer 1st graders that are qualified in math this year. This is expected since there is a new exam that is difficult to study for. So now there are more single-qualified ELA kids as compared to past years.

    • Good feedback from school community about the 5th grade math information and communication.

 Council Questions/Updates

  • North Creek is discouraging all kids from acceleration, particularly taking a lot of APs. They suggest no more than 10 college classes over the course of HS.

    • WHS: When 8th graders are moving up, they are similarly discouraged.

    • Are there repercussions for North Creek kids who sign up for more? Not known.

    • What do college counselors say? We need them to weigh in.

    • What about prerequisites? Amity reports that prereqs have generally been eliminated as of two years ago. This was done because it seemed some segments of students were not in the higher courses (equity/bias issues). 

    • Do we need to eventually create a document about AP pathways for HiCap? Too late for this year, but for the future.

  • Election 

    • Should there be a change to the way we do our elementary reps now that there are no more EAP classrooms? Yes.

  • Fundraising

    • We will be in the red by June.

    • Please ask communities. And we also need an event.

  • Superintendent

    • Position statement

    • School board meeting - what role does HiCap council want to have

    • Reach out to Amy Cast

    • How does superintendent hiring work

      • School Board is hiring a Hiring Firm

      • They will then reach out to community for feedback (we will reach out to community to provide feedback)

      • They want to hire someone before the end of June


Action Items

  • Amity: Will talk to Andrea about helping Ashley and others to look at curriculum/ELA material. 

  • Middle School (& High School Reps): Reach out to Elizabeth Rampson with ELA concerns and what can be done at/suggestions for MS level. Elizabeth is on HiCap Council and Middle School HiCap Task Force.

  • RE: Budget: ALL Reps: ASAP, please review letter regarding the state budget sent by Terra on 3/5. Then HiCap reps should decide what we want to go into our own communication to constituents and share with Mairead

    • Letter/Social post - DUE March 17: Mairead will do draft (PLEASE SEND INPUT); Ashley will do MailChimp. Holly will review draft. Letter will include: how it affects our kids (generally and with personal story) and template for people to use when contact state reps.

  • Terra: Create and submit rule change so that all elementary schools will have a rep (and eliminate feeder pattern elementary reps).

  • Terra: Find out if HiCap can participate in Family Symposium on April 24

  • ALL reps: We need someone to shadow election. Please reach out to Holly. If you have not done a job this year, this is a good and important one!

  • ALL reps: You need to decide by April 1 if you will be running for your position again. Please reach out to Holly.

  • Faustine: Will sign us up for Menchies and MOD evenings and report back dates so we can spread the word in our communities.

  • Mairead and Liz:  Get speaking/community event going. Liz will connect to Austina and help with messaging. Mairead will help with location, EventBrite.

  • Regarding Superintendent Hiring: Holly will proactively tell us the dates of things happening. Ashley will work on first draft of position statement


Next month Agenda/Meeting

  • Superintendent Position Statement

  • Leota 5th grade math misinformation - update?